I had an interesting exchange last night with a believing Mormon about the “trustworthiness” of those of us who have left the Mormon church.
He started out with this:
I am afraid that when the spirit of apostasy takes over a man/person they no longer are guided by truth. In fact I have had an experience with an apostate this very week that demonstrates the spirit by which they are guided and I can tell you that truth is not one of the things this spirit demonstrates.
Out of 7 things stated by this man 7 were out right lies that those who were audience to these lies coming out of his mouth, knew full well they were lies and some actually demonstrated and witnessed to him that they were lies and yet he continued to state them as if they were truth and we were suppose to believe them.
It is a sad thing to see the dumbing down of those who were once enlightened. They just don’t seem to be seeing how obvious it is that they are lying.
Satan doesn’t stand by those he has taken claim to.
BTW we weren’t speaking of anything to do with the church– we were trying to work with the guy on irrigation.
To which I responded:
Let’s see if I have this right. We who no longer believe in Mormonism are liars who have been claimed by Satan.
Gee, thanks for pointing out how obvious that is. I never would have known. (I even added a smiley.)
But he wasn’t finished:
Well I guess it is funny until you have to deal with them on the secular level. Today while in his home with the water master we felt the demons and darkness tangible as the furniture.
It was no pleasure I assure you.
Granted, I don’t think this guy reflects the average Mormon in his attitude toward those of us who have left, but he does represent the extreme in an attitude I find all too common among Mormons.
Our entire lives we were told that only really bad people would leave the church, and only the most evil would actively speak out against the church. We regularly hear that no one would leave the church for legitimate reasons. Nope, those who leave must have some hidden sins, or they are too proud, or someone offended them. I just had someone yesterday tell me that I was just looking for an excuse to leave.
Because of the indoctrinate we all went through, it’s very difficult for a lot of Mormons to see us exmos as people with reasons for the way we see the church. It’s far easier to dismiss us as evil or prideful and thus not worthy of their time. Joseph Smith was notorious in demonizing those who left his church, characterizing them as traitors and the vilest of people, and that tradition has continued today, as witnessed by our friend.
Unfortunately, I see some of the same thing on the exmormon side. Some people tend to lump all Mormons into one group who show a variety of negative personality traits, such as judgmentalism, arrogance, and stupidity.
But unless we see Mormons as individuals, too, we have no right to complain when they stereotype us. A friend of mine is convinced that there can be no dialogue between Mormons and exMormons because these attitudes are too entrenched. I’m a little more hopeful, but I’m afraid I won’t be expecting it from this guy.